Wed Sep 12, 2007
By Jennifer Stone (Metroland)
CLARINGTON -- Saying the municipality would not be a willing host to an incinerator proposed by the Regions of Durham and York would have "absolutely no effect whatsoever" on the process, Regional Chairman Roger Anderson told Clarington councillors Monday.
The chairman was one of a number of delegations speaking on the matter during the council meeting.
"It would be nice if we could have a willing host, but it is not essential," said Mr. Anderson. In fact, he said, that East Gwillimbury, the only other municipality with a potential site for the proposed incinerator besides Clarington, has said it won't be a willing host is neither here nor there. The site there remains under consideration, with a decision expected later this month on preferred site.
"It would be pretty easy to sit in front of all these folks ... and say, okay, I'm not going to be a willing host," he said, referring to the audience in council chambers, several of whom were on hand to voice their opposition to the proposed Energy From Waste plant. "Easy to say it now, but I don't know what you're going to say in 2011 (after the Michigan border closes to Ontario trash) because you're not going to have an answer."
There is nothing to the suggestion made by Clarington Councillor Adrian Foster that the Municipality is "Durham's ultimate waste solution," said the chairman. "We deem energy from waste as the ultimate waste solution," he said. But, there are alternatives to incinerating garbage which should be explored, some delegates told Council. Many touted a move toward zero waste, with some form of stabilized landfill until waste can be eliminated.
It's not like incineration will eliminate the need for landfill, said Kerry Meydam. "With the incinerator ... you still have that residual ash, and you still need landfill," she said. It is estimated about 30 per cent of what is sent into the incinerator would remain as bottom ash.
Zero waste, which would entail extending producer responsibility for their spent product. isn't terribly realistic, said others.
"Germany put in one of the most extensive producer responsibility systems ... but after the system was implemented, what they found was that they had huge and growing stockpiles of materials that could not be recycled," said David Climenhage. "I don't think that necessarily a zero-waste solution is something that can happen without many years and many new technologies in place to achieve it."
But, there is a need to look for other solutions, said others, some of whom were clearly disheartened by Mr. Anderson's comments.
"I'm not sure it really makes a difference whether I'm here or not," said Kristin Robinson. "It certainly seems like Mr. Anderson has made it clear my side won't be heard at all.
"I believe we can do better than burning our waste. I believe it is just a band-aid solution."
So, what do our readers think of this? Do you like being brushed off by those who presume to know what is best for all of us (like Anderson, Abernethy and our regional councillors who don't care what we have to say about it)? It is appalling that they will listen to their pro-incinerator/lobbyist/consultants but will not listen to doctors, scientists or residents (or those who are both), and won't bother to read medical journals or opinions of waste experts or even pretend to have any common sense at all?
What do you think about this? We do have the opinion of one Regional Councillor from a press release passed on to me from a group of residents earlier today. He hits the nail right on the head!
Clarington Residents Owed Apology over Remarks
“Regional Chair Anderson must respect taxpayers” says Councillor.Oshawa—Oshawa Regional Councillor Brian Nicholson is urging Durham Regional Chair Roger Anderson to apologize to Clarington taxpayers for his disrespectful comments at Clarington Municipal Council on Monday, September 10, 2007.
Anderson is reported to have told Clarington Council that “saying the municipality would not be a willing host to an incinerator proposed by the Regions of Durham and York would have "absolutely no effect whatsoever" on the process”.
“I find that comment to be inaccurate, offensive and not helpful to the public consultation process”, says Councillor Nicholson, “We are currently in an Environmental Assessment process, we are holding public meetings in Clarington, and the taxpayers of both the Region and the Municipality are spending hundreds of thousands of dollars doing peer reviews. Why are we spending all this money if the input from Clarington Council and its residents will have “absolutely no effect whatsoever” on the process?”
Nicholson continues, “As a member of the Regional Works Committee, I consider the opinions of the Clarington Council and the taxpayers of Clarington to be vital information in my decision making process. What is it about public comment and public participation that scares the Regional Chair? Is it possible that questions are being asked that he would prefer not be asked?”
Regional Council was asked in 2004, 2005 and 2006 to adopt a policy to add a pre-condition requiring any incineration site to be constructed must be located in a municipality that was a “willing host”. Council, led by Chair Anderson, ruled that any decision on “the requirement to be a willing host” was premature until the site selection process was completed and a host site announced.
“If it is premature to require a willing host prior to site selection, why is not premature to not require a willing host prior to site selection. Once again, we are seeing the rules change by fiat from the Chair rather than by Regional Council.”, claimed Councillor Nicholson. “If Chair Anderson wishes to have Regional Council take a position that states they will place an incinerator in a local municipality whether that municipality is a willing host or not, let him bring that forward to Council. In my opinion, he would have a rude shock if he did.”
This spring, Mayor Jim Abernethy of Clarington apologized to the Regional Chair on behalf of Clarington Council when the Chair was not allowed to speak to Clarington Council. It was said then that not allowing the Chair to speak and offer his views was an insult to the elected office of Regional Chair.
“ If not allowing the Regional Chair speak is an insult, then so is a statement by the Regional Chair that states that the opinions of the Clarington Council and its residents will have “absolutely no effect whatsoever” on the process.”, claims Councillor Nicholson. “If one was wrong, then so is the other. Chair Anderson owes the Clarington Council, and more importantly, the residents of Clarington, Durham residents all, an apology for his comments.”
“The public consultation process must be above reproach, but it is becoming clear from comments such as those made by the Regional Chair, that the process is nothing more than a public relations exercise to limit the political fallout from a decision already made.”, Nicholson concludes.
For further information,
Regional Councillor Brian Nicholson
905-436-5603
bnicholson@oshawa.ca
Comments, anyone? I say Bravo to Councillor Nicholson and to the residents who continue to try to be heard. Pooh Pooh on Chairman Anderson for not even bothering to care.
So, Chairman Anderson trots into town on Monday to inform our elected Council and the people of Clarington that what we think about the incinerator doesn't matter; he and the Region will site it wherever they wish.
ReplyDeleteThe only thing more insulting than this is that our politically bankrupt Mayor and our other elected representatives sat there and took this! Why?
If anyone ever wondered why we need an elected Chair, go back and read the story above by Jennifer Stone and the open letter to Mr. Anderson and our Council from Oshawa Councillor Nicholson.
I am thoroughly disgusted and disappointed. Maybe its time we started thinking again about the wisdom of being a part of Durham Regional. When Regional Government came into being I was skeptical, but willing to give it a try. I've become so disenchanted with it - Clarington could do better on its own for most services. Our Regional taxes are the biggest part of our tax bill and from the behaviour I've seen at the regional level it's a waste of our money.
ReplyDeleteWe can go back and look at electing the chair or we can think about dissolving the region. I'm beginning to think it should be the latter.
Why bother? If the Regional level of government won't even bother to listen to it's component municipalities and has the ultimate power over all of us, I agree either that must change or we should look into joining a region to our north or east. I don't want to be a part of such a region any longer. I'm beyond offended.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure the incinerator will end up in Clarington, and more specifically it will be Courtice. I'm taking bets! Clarington is the dumping ground for anything the Region wants but wants to shove it out of the way. The new sewage plant in Courtice is a good example. And always down near the lake. We have less and less lakefront left for the public to enjoy in Clarington. What planning. Sewage, garbage, cement kilns, nukes. What next? That "Energy Park" is looking less and less desirable, and the entire municipality is looking less inviting to new Docs too. What about property values? Down the tubes. Oh there are so many plusses to Clarington hosting a huge new garbage incinerator!
ReplyDeleteIn response to annonymous (above). While it seems like we might get this in Clarington, for all the reasons you have suggested; especially now with a whimpy Mayor and two pathetically weak Regional councillirs (Trim and Novak) there is still time to head this off.
ReplyDeleteCouncil meets every other Monday of the week and they also meet as the PP&A commiitte every other week. Go to the municipal website to get dates/times. Plan to be there. The more people these clowns see in the audience, the better.
If possible, sign up as a delegation and let them know how you feel; put their feet to the fire. Encourage your family members, friends, and neighbors to also attend.
Keep coming back to this blog frequently, and when you see a call for demonstrators, go to all lenghts to show up.
Write a note to Mayor and council (or to individual councillors) their addresses are all on the municipal website,clarington.net.
Oh yea, and while your at it (telling your councillors to tell the Region we will not be a willing host), ask therm to take another vote like real democratic municipalities (Ajax, Whitby, Oshawa) have done, and go on record as supporting our having an elected Chair at Durham Region.
Our Mayor supported this prior to getting himself elected, then flip-floped soon afterwards.
Why does it have to be always Oshawa that stands up for Clarington.
ReplyDeleteIt's time our mayor and regional councillors to grow backbones and stand up for their unelected boss on council.
Of course we're the dumping ground. We were not wanted in the 70s when Durham County (Clarington and parts of Northumberland/Peterborough areas), and Ontario County (rest of Durham Region) were amalagated. Now we're being punished again and again.
We're only in the GTA by name, with everything else being with Northumberland, maybe we should seperate and join them, and then we get some fair treatment.
I would agree with that - if Durham Region wants to continue to dump on us, let's leave and join another region, such as Northumberland. Do we take Darlington and the sewage treatment plant with us? I guess we would. We could then just sell the services to Durham Region.
ReplyDeleteI am sick and tired of being treated like the distant cousin with acne whom everyone tries to ignore until they want something done. There is growing unrest with Regional arrogance along with arrogance right on our own Council. I, for one, will remember this in 3+ years when the next election rolls around. So will my family and neighbours. We are all furious.
I see that our illustrious Mayor is backing up Chairman Anderson and claiming that Councillor Nicholson is wrong. He did the same thing against our local councillors when they had the guts to stand up to Anderson in the spring.
ReplyDeleteA lot of Clarington residents were at the meeting and many others watched it on TV. If you think that Councillor Nicholson's comments are right, then I urge you to write to the local paper or send emails and demand an apology from both Chair Anderson and Mayor Abernethy.
If we don't support those like Councillor Nicholson who speak up for us, who is going to take on the old boys in the future? Support our community and demand an apology.
I have a solution to the incinerator emissions problem. I will be moving out of Clarington asap. We are looking for a home in Markham right now, and will stay outside of Durham or Peel Regions (incinerators). I also have 4 neighbours so far who are putting their homes up for sale. None of us even want to wait until the end of the month because as soon as the site is announced, our property values will plummet.
ReplyDeleteWe all have young children, and it is not worth the risk to stay here. The politicians are ignoring all the literature that says even with the newer 'scrubbers' there are still cancer and other disease-causing emissions that cannot be captured. They are being narrow-minded and stubborn and there is absolutely no excuse for their behaviour.
Metroland just confirmed what we all know.
ReplyDeleteThe Osborne Road site in Courtice is the preferred spot for the incinerator.
Most likely our mayor and regional councillors will let it go through without much of a peep. Pretty bad when Trim is the chairman of the Public Works department and not doing anything.
To bad we can't recall our elected councillors. I assume since Anderson's seat is unelected we can't do that either. Maybe new people would stop this embarrasment, since every other area has pretty well said NO.
Time for Durham to be a fully elected Region. Right down to the Regional Chair. I don't know what the parties are saying about it being an election issue because nobody's responded to the e-mail I have sent to the parties and the candiates for Durham riding.